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Posted 15 November 2008 - 02:06 AM

Hello

After 3 years of false starts, wrong referrals useless pdocs a few months ago I was finally told by a new pdoc who to actually speak to (had to phone them myself which for me isn't easy) so anyway about a month ago i got in touch with AddAction which is a charity that is supposed to deal with addiction problems... in other words stop addicts like me bothering the NHS.

Anyway i saw them the other day and after an hour and a half spent answering bizarre questions they have decided to put me on a 6 one on one appointment plan to try and help... I can't see how this will work, or help or anything else. The woman who i saw couldn't believe that i was the 4th person that day who described where we live as being hell, with nothing to do other than drink. we have no proper transport links, there is a shit one screen cinema and 16 pubs... how can you get out of this rut when there is nothing, absolutely nothing to do?

Sorry if this doesn't make sense, it's difficult to explain

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 02:43 AM

(((( Mike ))))

What you wrote does make sense, and I'm sure it is difficult to explain, but I am glad that you took these steps and that they seem to be willing to help, I really do hope that something good comes of this and please keep coming back and posting for support along your way!

Wishing you all the luck in the world !

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 05:16 AM

((((mike))))

ok. i had to see the badger being spooned to refresh my cloudy brain. of course i know who you are!! you are badger getting spooned.

i hope you get some help with the new counselor. i wish i had some good advice, but i will offer a hug. :bighug:

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 10:30 AM

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I think so much of our culture here in the West revolves around drinking alcohol that it has become extremely difficult to cut down or stop drinking as we seem to be surrounded by opportunity. It is a socially acceptable habit that tends to creep up on you - you suddenly realise that you are drinking every day, the two drinks become three, and so on....it is a slippery slope. For those who suffer depression it is an even worse struggle, as often alcohol provides us with our only anasthaesthia, the first drink of the day becomes the high point that we look forward to. It helps deaden the pain of depression, it oils the social wheels when we find it difficult to make contact and it helps to deal with feelings of frustration and anger.

The uk doesn't seem to have much in the way of inpatient rehab facilities - from what I have read many doctors just refer people who are struggling with alcohol problems to AA. While I am sure this organization does great work for some, its philosophy doesn't work for everyone - I, for one, would have a lot of problems with the 12 step programme as it seems to be based upon the belief of some kind of 'Higher Power' - which would stick in my throat. I hope the organisation you have been referred to will be more helpful to you. Like many things in life it will probably partly be a matter of luck if you get a counsellor who you 'click' with.

I don't know what stage you are at at the moment - you have already made a big step in admitting you have a problem and deciding to do something about it. The help may not be optimal, but if you are determined to do this for yourself you could have enough resources at your disposal to make a go of this. Having guidance to help you gain an insight into how and why you drink is essential though, so you can learn how to deal with certain 'danger' situations. Have you set some kind of date to start to try to change your behaviour?

I recently stumbled across this website http://www.247helpyo...f.com/index.php. It seems to be quite new, so it is just possible you haven't come across it. You have to join to get access to all the facilities, but it is free. It seemed to me to offer lots of sensible help, support and encouragement to help you plan out how you are going to approach stopping or cutting down on drinking.

I am glad you have come here to talk about it, and I hope you continue to post. We all need a helping hand sometimes and it is ok to reach out.

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Posted 15 November 2008 - 12:14 PM

The uk doesn't seem to have much in the way of inpatient rehab facilities - from what I have read many doctors just refer people who are struggling with alcohol problems to AA. While I am sure this organization does great work for some, its philosophy doesn't work for everyone - I, for one, would have a lot of problems with the 12 step programme as it seems to be based upon the belief of some kind of 'Higher Power' - which would stick in my throat.


This is precisely the reason why I have constantly refused to go to AA. This other charity AddAction seems to be better with no religion or 'higher power' stuff involved. The most frustrating thing of all is I should have been referred there 3 or so years ago, but was referred to the wrong place and nothing happened afterwards.

Anyway at the moment I'm so skint I won't be able to afford a drink for a few days, despite the AddAction people telling me not to completely give up immediately because it can cause health problems... I have no choice at the moment.

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Posted 25 November 2008 - 06:50 PM

well almost 3 weeks since my appointment with the addaction people and still heard nothing...

I have managed to reduce my drinking quite a bit, by myself with no other help. But previous experience tells me this will only be a short term thing as without any help i'll fall off the wagon again.

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 01:32 AM

Hi Mike

I had a drink problem; quite a serious drink problem - I was told that if I didn't stop I would be dead within a year to a year and a half. That was two years ago. I did manage to stop eventually, but not when the doctor told me I was going to die - I couldn't really have cared less. But stomach problems came on that meant I couldn't physically drink for a few days. I stayed in bed pretty much 24 hours a day for about a week and didn't go back to the drink. One of my biggest fears about giving up was the fear of boredom. I thought that without it I would be unbearably bored. It's strange, but once you get out of the rut you get interested in other things again and start to feel better about life. I hope you succeed in kicking the habit.

Very best wishes

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Posted 26 November 2008 - 07:26 AM

((((((((((((((Mike))))))))))),

I can understand what you are going through...I have a drinking problem too..it is how I deal with crap of my problems...but I am trying to cut back...and like WC says, its getting out of the rut that is the tough part...and yeah, you may slip along the way, but better days will come...

Life's a journey man, take it a day at a time...

Best wishes,

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 12:08 PM

I'm completely skint again so i'm forced off the drink again, got some money on Wednesday so fell off the wagon Wednesday, Thursday and Friday... I guess it shows the level of my addiction. Sill heard nothing from AddAction, but their hope of me cutting down the drink rather than give it up completely is looking very unlikely at best.

These next few days are going to be long and boring... I hate this :(

I really have no idea how i'm going to cope for up to 4 days without a drink, if i'm being completely honest i'm actually quite scared

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 07:04 PM

(((((mike))))))

you have done it before, but it is easier when by choice. each passing minute is an achievement. :c: :co:

Edited by kewy13, 30 November 2008 - 07:06 PM.


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Posted 30 November 2008 - 09:53 PM

have found a half drunk can of lager in the house, probably 4 days old.... will i get desperate enough to drink it, that is the question...?

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Posted 30 November 2008 - 10:11 PM

1 sip and it's gone down the drain.... utterly revolting :( well this is it then, complete alcohol abstinence until Wednesday baring some sort of miracle... anyone care to enter a sweep stake about how much sleep will be achieved? my money is on 4 hours before Wednesday night :(

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Posted 06 December 2008 - 10:05 PM

Well thanks to the fascist useless bastards at the students loans company I am yet again skint for another week and a half, (they have taken money from my account that they shouldn't have done) therefore back to having very little to drink, had 2 glasses of wine today at my parents, nothing yesterday and probably nothing for the next week or so...

I'm so bored it's untrue, i'm getting so little sleep it's ridiculous... i'm falling apart and i'm being offered no help from the NHS or AddAction absolutely nothing... The so called care and support in this country is nothing short of pathetic, maybe in a big city it would be different (though somehow i doubt it) but here in the small rural area's where there is massive drink and drug problems, nothing is available...

I think i'm just going to repeatedly slam my head into the wall until i pass out. At least it'll give me something to FUCKING do! aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhh

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 07:49 AM

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 08:40 AM

((((Mike))))

Not sure if any of the following will be useful to you (sorry not sure how to add links) you might already know about the following, the information might already be on here I haven't looked :oops:

The Recovery Network is set up as a non-religious alternative to AA (TRN).

www.addictiontoday.org
www.actiononaddiction.org.uk
www.lifeworkscommunity.com

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Posted 07 December 2008 - 04:45 PM

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Posted 08 December 2008 - 10:49 PM

Had a few to drink last night but am back to my forced abstinence again :( not suffering as badly as I was on Saturday night, but its a real struggle none the less :( it's crap this :( and my headphones are uncomfortable and keep cutting out in the left ear as well, so it's even difficult to listen to music :( God this is boring :(

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Posted 09 December 2008 - 05:00 AM

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Posted 28 December 2008 - 02:01 PM

I would try to look online or phone book to see if any other places might help. In our town there is a local drop in place to talk in a group, informally - its not AA before you ask - and they dont preach to you. Even where I used to live - which is a piddly little town had a drop in centre - which was part of the mental health centre - for alcohol, drugs and other addictive things.

I would have a look around to see what else is on offer and go and demand at AddAction why nothing has been done, or see your GP again. You have fell through the cracks and I would hate to see you struggling alone with this problem.

I used to go to AlAnon, despite my own battle with alcohol on and off, and did enjoy the companionship - but I am not religious, although I can see some universal power out there - that is who I talk to.


Hope you got through this Christmas period ok.
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Posted 29 December 2008 - 12:20 AM

Had a phone call from Addaction on Christmas eve letting me know that I have my first appointment arranged for January the 9th, I got hammered Christmas eve, had a few on Christmas day, fell out with the parents on boxing day so got twatted again. However I have been trying to keep myself amused by installing Gentoo onto my desktop. Which has worked brilliantly really.... It's kinda handy that i've found a live stream on the internet to watch the darts, so i'm not missing out on that :D

Sleep is still a huge problem, currently getting no more than a couple of bad hours sleep a night at best. The first few days into the new year will be a nightmare, obviously new years will be messy, then I have my friends birthday on the 2nd and i'm not missing that, then I have a darts party to go to on the 4th to watch the darts final.

After that i guess the hard work starts *sigh*